she's going nuts.....
I forgot to tell you....when he went to her house on the 4th day....as we lie in bed the night before....I asked my hubby if I could advise him as a muslim sister and not as his wife. So he says, please go ahead. So I begin by saying....that although he owes me close to 3 months.....that I find it unfair of him to be in the same city as my cowife and not go and see her. It's unreasonable of him to do that, especially if she's not agreeing to it. I asked him how she feels about the time he's spending with us...?? He said she's going nuts. OK, then. I told him.....that the decision that he took to spend 4 mos with her and only 1 month with me, wasn't her fault. And for him to tell her now....I'm staying with my family, even though ur right in front of my face was cruel. And that maybe if he reasoned with her, about lost time on my part, the fact that it's only a short visit...that if she could see it in her heart to pretend that he had 4 wives and he'll see her every 4th night, would be a bit more reasonable. Friends...I cannot tell you how I managed to talk to my husband so openly, so lovingly.....without breaking down. I was not telling him that I don't want him and I don't love him. In fact, I was telling him just how much I did love him, cuz I wanted whats best for him. That I feared the punishment of Allah, and was advising him.
The look in my hubby's eyes when we were talking...was full of love, respect and admiration. I think I just melt when I think of that look. He went to her the next night, which I wrote about....you guys know how hard it was for me, but I fought the urge to let things just go.......when he asked me the next day why I was taking it so hard when I was the one who advised him....I told him.....I chose my deen. My deen is something, and my feelings are something else. It's the truth. It's what picks me up when I'm about to fall down.
So anyways....
After chuckee cheese, we dropped the kids off at home and hubby took me for a walk....and opened up. He talked and talked and talked. I felt so good. I so badly need to hear things from him. I didn't comment, and didn't question.....I know when I question him, he gets defensive....and then that'll be the end of the conversation....so I just gently prodded him along with little things to keep him rambling. SubhanAllah. It takes so much effort to hold back.....in honesty, I felt like jumping on his back and yelling,
"YOU STUPID, STUPID MAN!! HOW CAN YOU STAND THERE AND HAVE A FIT OF VERBAL DIARRHEA???"
But hey......self control, my lovelies....
So he went on about how she's being very insecure....how she's asking sheikh's left and right questions...basically, she can't handle the fact that we are here. Or as hubby puts it...can't handle herself. So what does that leave me with?
Now he had an interview at the police station the next night, about the beating....and I went with him...and we went for another late night walk. It was great. He opened up again....and we really had the chance to bond in a way that hasn't happened in a while. He told me that someone asked him what his "mission" was with wife # 2. And he says, he told the person, I want to help her get her kids back from her ex husband. (cuz she's fighting him in court) So the person asks hubby, ok and then what? So hubby says...well, then that's it. My part in it is over. And the person asked him for clarification and he said, well, then I'll divorce her.
So I'm listening to him tell me this....and again, I didn't jump all over it. I wanted to.....but I can't let myself look that desperate, u know? So that's on my list of Q's.
Now the 2nd time he went to MM's house....my 11yr old broke down for the first time. She's always been standing up for her father and loves him so very much. The minute she left, she came running to me and sobbed her heart into my shoulders....I cried with her and didn't know how to handle this. She's been sticking up for him, standing by him...u name it.....never once allowing herself to say anything about the situation at all....and here she is sobbing into my shoulder. What should I do? I held her and subhanALLAH...after she finished crying, I tried to talk to her and u know what??? She wouldn't say a word. SubhanAllah.
So he was with her on Thurs night and that means he should go back on Monday night. But monday we are plannning a day out so Hubby and I were discussing him going on Sun night. I'm sort of reluctant towards that, cuz I know that I lose a day....she won't give it back. Rather I don't expect her to be that selfless. And I don't wanna lose a day. DARN!
So then, surprise surprise....this morning hubby tells me to go on over and spend the night at moms' on Sunday night cuz he'll spend Sun night with MM. And I'm stunned....I says...but I don't wanna lose a day. And he's like I already told her. SHIT! So what does that mean? We planned Monday to go to Marineland....so now if I stay at moms Sun and sleep over...I still ain't coming home early enough to go to Marineland......so now I lose a day....AND I lose the trip???? I gotta talk to him about that again. It's starting to piss me off.
So buddies....I wanna tell you that with all that has been going on....I have found depths of my soul that I didn't know existed. I have been an example to my children.....and have pleased my husband. I've decided that I absolutely will not forgive hubby the time he owes me. When I was reading the comment box, I liked very much what I read about men not really appreciating it and therefore encouraging them to do it again.
But here's what I'm faced with.......I'm thinking I'm not gonna leave. I know....WHOA! But there's so much stuff going on here......It ain't gonna work. I have no guarantee that hubby can travel anytime soon. He keeps saying he's packing up and coming home to Egypt.....but the way I see things.....if he does it in 6 months, I'll be amazed. What better way to make him hurry up than if I stay? And then there's MM, who's trying to sink in her claws. Even tho hubby told her he doesn't want kids, she's been on 3 different kinds of BC....and supposedly she's been asking about that as well. So, I see that he needs us here. Waiting patiently in Egypt, ain't gonna do it for me......so let me know what ya'll think. I have no idea how I'm going to put this to him.....but I know he's gonna flip.


11 Comments:
Hi sweetie.
I have several reactions to everything you have written. First, I would like to say that the issue of time is one of the most important things. He does owe you missed time and since he can only make that time up when you are there or he comes to Egypt then he should be doing so now. "Time", according to everything I have read refers to the nights spent together. I would suggest that he stop by to check on her every few days but that you not give up ANY nights. You can tell him that it is taking its toll on the kids and for the remainder of your visit you would like to revert to the original plan which was to spend the nights with you. Frankly, there is nothing she can do when her husband makes up his mind -- as I have found out regarding mine -- so help him make it up according to what allows him the chance to make amends for his trangression these past 9 months.
Secondly, while I do not concern myself foremost with the feelings of this woman I would like to point out that if his plan is to help her get her kids back and then divorce her, he is being very cruel -- UNLESS she knows this is his plan. It seems to me that when it comes to the right behavior as a Muslim, this is not it. And again, while it is not your place to guide him, I would avoid encouraging him to do anything that may have a cost when it comes to the day of judgment. I would keep my mouth shut and if he mentions this to you, and if anything you might express your concern for him making the most Islamically valid decisions he can in this matter.
That said, from the looks of things I do not think she can tolerate being a second wife, and even wonder if she fuilly understood what she was getting herself into. I am not saying he told her his marriage to you was over, but rather that she might have assumed you would be staying in Egypt and he would be staying in Canada. She could easily have lulled herself into a false sense of security if she is in denial. what is clear, though, is your husband intends to stand by his marriage commitment to you and so she will either have to get on board or get divorced.
Your husband bears the responsibility of making sure that he treats his wives fairly and that one is not allowed to treat the other in an unacceptable manner. Clearly, there is no problem in that regard when it comes to you and he should thank Allah for the guidance and wisdom to select you as his wife in the first place. However, his choice with MM doesn't appear to be up to that standard and it is HIS responsibility to insure that she is not allowed to create any fitna for you or your children.
As for staying in Canada... hmmmmm..... What do you think hubby's response will be? And also, how do you think the kids would take it? Is it easier for them being there and having all this right under their noses because they have access to dad? Or would it be better to remove them from the conflict for now and let him get his affairs straight before you are all reunited to live together? If that is the case, though, I would set a deadline.
Love you, Sissy,
PM
12:46 PM
As-salaamu Alaykum. WOW, Safa you definately have your hands full, masha-Allah. I am taking lessons from you and many other sisters that are being tested. With the help of all of you, I will be able to achieve success, insha-Allah.
Allah is truly merciful, suban-Allah. With the patience, perserverance and gratitude that you have exibited thus far, the only advice I can give is to keep it up. Do what ever you feel is going to be most beneficial for you an the family and don't forget to make istikara.
Love you.
2:40 PM
Salamu alaykum Safa,
I agree with PM that as you are there to make up the time it is not unfair to the other wife if you have all the nights with him as he is making up time. It is the sunnah to check up on all the wives daily as that is what the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) did to make sure they are okay and have no immediate need. It sounds like she's calling a lot so that could consist of the checking up on her. If he could just drop by for 30 minutes and say what's up every few days that should be sufficient inshallah. This will enable him to make up the time at a faster rate and also allow him not to totally abandon her. Of course now that you've agreed to give up every 4th night this won't go over well with MM but such is the life.
You gave up your night to her and now you are taking it back which is your right.
As for you staying in Canada it might be beneficial and Allah knows best. I would make salatul istikarah afer consulting with zogee and go with that decision.
May Allah increase the love between you and your husband.
Ameen.
8:49 PM
AsSalaamu A'laikum
I purposely did not read the comments before writing this. As a man I can tell you that he's not going to flip out. I would expect that if you said you were staying he would be relieved. Even if he doesn't act like it he will. The way that I see the situation is this he got himself into a situation based on base sexual desires out of fantasy and the reality of his loving wife is jarring enough to bring him down out of the clouds. You are more powerful than you think. I can't tell you enough how much respect you are building in your husband's heart by not getting emotional and flipping out. Men don't handle that very well. I think that if you keep doing what you are doing you will be able to save your marriage get rid of MM and garner a level of respect not to be rivaled in this marriage or any other. Even if MM stays you will be the de-facto (Boss Lady ~ Big Love's Barb) Alpha female which means you make the rules, the schedule, manage the finances and say what goes where and when. This is a good place to be in (for women interested in staying in the relationship that is). I think that you want to keep your marriage so staying for a short time is a good thing until you can atleast iron out the "family dynamics". Your union was blessed from the beginning and hers well came out of Sin so naturally you are on the higher plane.
Ok Now I will read the comments.
PM is a very wise woman no doubt. Your time is yours of course giving it up will garner a reward from Allah Insha Allah, but it is your right and you don't have to give it up. In fact it may actually be a bad deal. You must set boundaries for yourself and your husband and demand that these boundaries are respected.
Yes about that get kids back and divorce her thing. If he isn't going to divorce her now how does he think he will feel about divorcing her with all of those kids? I think that the guilt factor will be much greater then and he won't do it. Because there's the whole period of adjustment and then her getting on her feet and a place to stay yadda yadda and now you're talking 3-6 years into the marriage and then what's the point of divorcing her then? Don't bet on it. If he ain't divorced her yet he probably won't unless she becomes way too trifling.
Like I told my wife if someone comes in, I'm not going to kick them out just because the winds change. So bet on her staying for a while unless she leaves on her own recognizance she ain't going anywhere. At least not spurned on by him. He would be wise to sort his feelings out now while there are no extra commitments, because if she perchance happens to get preggers then there goes the piss bucket all over the dinner table. So either you or some other responsible person needs to talk to him and keep his head in the game.
To be sure she doesn't pop positive on a preg exam you better do all you can to keep him drained while you are there and keep that swimmer count down.
Keep him talking. Keep listening he'll blow or at least he will share ALL of his thoughts with you and you will be in a better position to assess exactly what is going on.
That's all I have to say anything else is just peacocking.
AsSalaamu A'laikum
9:33 PM
Well, I am glad to see that you are back! I have been wondering about how things are for you. Masha'Allah you are handeling this with GRACE. Masha'Allah.
11:28 AM
i wish i could say i was happy to hear you are back blogging... but with all you are going thru i feel so sad. inshaa allah the day will come when your posts will be filled with happiness and not all this crazy stuff that mm and your husband is putting you thru. mashaa allah your strength and faith in the deen is so powerful and you inspire me to try harder to increase my own faith. subhan allah sister, may allah reward you !!!
jilbabble
5:28 PM
Going Crazy? or already crazy?
7:22 AM
hang on. if he's only with her so she can get her kids back (sounds suspicious to me!), why does he need to go and have sex with her?
i just find it really strange that my husband goes mad if it's even mentioned that women have affairs/fancy other men/have had previous boyfriends etc, yet it's perfectly ok for men to have a rolling regime of up to four women. i thought i'd got my head round polygyny, but i haven't quite cracked it.
much love, safa.
9:21 AM
Safa, my dear sweet sister...I'm glad you and your girls arrived safely in Canada. I wish things weren't so freakin' crazy for you there though. I've seen some low and dirty things, but this woman your husband married has to take the cake. (But instead of candles on the cake, I think a used pee-stick is in order!) Gross!!! I do wish the best for you...keep your head high and stay strong!
9:22 AM
Alhamdulillah....u guys offer so many views and so many great points....let me offer some responses, ok??
PM:
"from the looks of things I do not think she can tolerate being a second wife, and even wonder if she fuilly understood what she was getting herself into"
I totally think the same thing. She was counting on the fact that I'd be in Egypt and that she'd deal with the issue of me, if and when, she got there.
In response to ur last paragraph. I see he's going thru a lot of BS right now....his present employment is sueing him, and he's countersueing....I know I've never brought that up before.....his case is good, and they are a bunch of liars and Hubby has proven it time and time again, factually. He can't leave Canada until the court case is done.....it was supposed to go to court Aug 31...but now it's supposed to go again end of Sept. So this is slowing hubby down about coming to Egypt...he's working on it. Maybe if this situation is in the kids face it will make hubby "hurry up", I sure as hell ain't putting them thru all of this.....and I feel like I've done enough of the "outta sight outta mind thingy", you know?
Mohammed....I'm working on keeping him talking. The boundaries aren't working so well....I've been trying since the beginning...I still can't control the phone call issue.....patience, patience....(it's interesting to hear a man's point of view"
Amygdala: Even if he only married her to help her get her kids, she has rights...she is a WIFE.....so she gets all the stuff that goes with it.....I also asked myself the same question way back in Sept.....I mean....why BOTHER?
11:09 AM
As salamu alikum SAFA....Girl stay there in Canada, but don't forget to read ayat al Kursi everyday....Who knows what she'll do? But you leaving back to Egypt will only give her what she wants and will make it easy on her. You have every right to stay and be with your husband. You got married to have your husband there; not to be alone. Another thing, don't believe everything he tells you. They get our hopes up and then let us down time and time again. Tell him not to tell you these things unless and until he is really going to end it FOR GOOD! It is not fair to you that he tells you what you want to hear. Just always keep the worst case senerio in mind...SHE IS THERE TO STAY!!! That will help you to deal better than always living your life hoping that they end things. Live in canada and be a wife and let him be a husband and a father. He is your family and you are his. Be together and move together....you need eachother. But just my input....I don't think she is a keeper or that she will last much longer. Make istikhara; it never fails! love ya! Salam
11:40 AM
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