....another day.....

Hubby came home exhausted yesterday. Fell asleep after dinner. And after about an hour, his cell phone rings. He says salaam over and over again.....no answer. Finally he hangs it up, rolls back over to go to sleep.
I know it was her. She calls from her cell phone, which shows up private number on his cell.....and then hangs up to call back about 10 mins later with a phone card. I've seen it again and again.
10 mins later, his phone rings again. He answers. I'm folding laundry outside the door. I can hear him talking quietly. From my bedroom. Talking oh so quietly. And I'm not too pleased. I start putting the clothes away and walk into MY room. He looks at me....and I look at him as I pass by with my arms full of clothes.
I go out and get more clothes. He's still talking. And after 7 mins.....he hangs up. I totally ignore him. He gets up and goes to the bathroom. The kids are all studying in the livingroom. I go in one of the other bedrooms and start organizing the drawers.
Eventually, he walks in the room. He sits down. He asks me to do something on his cell phone. (sad start by him, but he wants to open discussion here) I look right at him, (ignoring the cell phone request)....and tell him.
"We have to work hard together to bring our family peace.....and I try to keep away things from you that upset you, I want you to be happy and peaceful at home. I know that you want the same for me....but by talking to your wife on the phone in MY house, it will only cause me upset and harm. I wish you'd stop it."He gave some lame stuff..."what do you want me to do? She talks so much....blah blah"
"I cannot tell you what to do.....I can only say that this behaviour upsets me and if you want to help me, then you will avoid upsetting me"
So he makes some big show....Should I run outta the house with my cell phone in my hand when she calls? Should I??
I smirk at him and say..."personally, I'd just answer the phone and tell her I can't talk right now and to call back in 30 mins"
Then he gets all stupid....."What if I need to go to the bathroom and pray and 30 mins are up?"
Duh! So I say..."Tell her to call you back when you ring on her.....what's the problem?"
And then I said a mouthful....
"Look....it's your responsibility to help me make this home peaceful. And you've got to figure out how you are going to do it. I've been very sticky on this point for 2 years and I just can't give it up. When your wife is right in front of you, you've got to work VERY hard to keep that relationship on track.....cause thats who you have right in front of you. If you upset me when you are absent and upset me when you are present........what the heck are we doing? I just want to forget that there's another wife. I've told you this again and again....and you can't seem to manage it.....let me be happy, okay??"
Yes, I said it with some tears. I couldn't help myself. But I said it. I needed to say it.
He left to go pray and came back later....and I greeted him like nothing happened. I'm still in that calm place friends. How powerful it is to give up emotions!!!! If I'd have not said anything, I would probably be blubbering at my keyboard!!
So I check his cell.......
He called her an hour after he left home. Talked for a minute. Then she called him back. They talked for 27 minutes. And an hour after that, she sends two text messages to him. Back to back.
"How come when I talk to you and ask questions you don't answer me? Do my questions bother you that much? Do you want me to promise that you'll never have to hear my voice again? What should I do?"
"You have to believe that I've done the best that I can do. Your manner of talking to me tells me lots about you that I didn't know. I have problems too, u know. You have to be more forgiving"
A far cry from the "I love U" messages of yesterday.
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And so starts another day.........


23 Comments:
He needs to just go ahead and rip the scab off, rather than picking away at it causing more pain. It will hurt like hell but that won't last. Now if he could just recognize what the scab is. ;-)
I thought they were divorced....???
4:38 AM
well said...!! They are divorced twice already.......
4:53 AM
assalamu aleikum wa rahmatulahi wa barakatuhu,
It seems his last two text messages are very similar to the way he talks to you...
"...I've done the best that I can do...I have problems too, you know..."
To an outsider (that would be me) he treats you both the same. So, is he being fair when he is equally stoic?
Perhaps...
6:12 AM
Why is it a far cry from anything? He dosent answer your questions and he dosent answer her questions.
From what you write, he treats you both the same way... uncommunicative and mindlessly badly... the only difference is that you are the wife on the spot right there and he is physically present in your space.
Ofcourse I wish for you that it were different, but seems that... it is what it is.
Sadiyah
6:31 AM
"Then he gets all stupid....."What if I need to go to the bathroom and pray and 30 mins are up?"
God, they're such children. Some days I'd swear I have a 9 year old for a spouse.
7:58 AM
Walaykumus salaam wr wb
.....those are HER texts to HIM.
Sadiyah....yup.
No answers for anyone but he knows EXACTLY what he is doing.....
8:41 AM
I read it as two messages from MM..maybe I am wrong??
Suzy xx
8:43 AM
Yes, it was two messages to Hubby from MM.
8:46 AM
I agree with Sadiyah, its just a really tough situation. I can feel the change in how you handle this situation but he seems to not have changed. Perhaps that is in the re-telling of the situation. I dont know. Either way, I feel like your husband excuses his actions by saying its the actions/thoughts/feelings of others that are making him into this person. And yet, this situation is of his own will and desire.
Constantly in my prayers,
-lost bedouin
9:19 AM
assalamu aleikum wa rahmatulahi wa barakatuhu,
I was wondering if you have heard from UmmAbdurrahman, pagesofimagination UmmAbdurRahman.
I tried calling her and her phone doesn't work. She is not blogging anymore.
Perhaps I should e-mail her, huh. Duh...
Well, it's just that she's about to her her baby, right.
I hope she's healthy and happy, insha'Allah.
I'll try e-mailing.
Send her my regards if you talk to her.
3:22 PM
Assalaamu Alaikum Safa,
I've been holding my tongue through your last several posts but I just have to say some things now. Like you, I don't want to hurt yours or anyone's feelings, just my own personal opinions, thoughts and questions here.
You said in one of your posts that you don't feel threatened. So if you don't feel threatened, exactly why is it you keep messing with his phone and looking at his text messages?
You also said you weren't going to gloat......"eventually, she's gonna get her short walk to the door"............"A far cry from the "I love U" messages of yesterday".........sounds like gloating to me.
I'll be the first to say he hasn't treated you right, nor her. Even IF she did ask him to marry her, you can't blame her for that. He obviously said yes (that is, assuming she did ask him). And he said yes knowing that you and he had talked about that very subject and you were against the whole idea of it from the beginning.
But let me ask you this. When you and he decided that you and your children would stay in Egypt and he would go work in Canada, did you ever think about or talk about how he was going to make it over there without sex for so long at a time? Oh I know there is such a thing as self control and other "ways" without a partner, but he's a man. He might have had the best of intentions but you know they don't always think with their brains.
Ok, after he married her.....is there even a small chance that he fell in love with her? What keeps him holding on to her and not being able to let go?
So now he has two wives. They pretty much despise each other and right now this man is probably feeling like he is being pecked to death by chickens, (which of course might not be a bad thing at this point) because he's got these two wives that are pulling and pulling, wanting everything but getting nothing really. Two wives. Hmmmm....but you know, he can have FOUR. So what if........just what if he's not feeling loved, he's feeling pushed to the limit and all these demands are being made from his current two unhappy wives.....might he possibly seek another happy place? Take another wife who might love and adore him and be everything he needs? Just some food for thought.....I'm not saying I think he should do this, he'd be crazy if he did, but still.....it IS a possibility....a scarey big possibility actually...
I do think you are right to let him know when you are hurting and to ask him not to do these things that upset you. Sometimes you do have to tell them, otherwise they think everything is alright. But there's still the matter of you monitoring his every move, his every text message from her and his every call. That hurts and upsets you too. And who knows, MM might be over there gloating every time she sends one because she knows who'll be reading it first. Safa, please stop doing that. You're a better woman than that.
If all of a sudden it was over between them and he's in Egypt for good...will you ever truly be able to trust him again? Can he ever reclaim that from you?
Now you know I AM wife #2. I can only speak for myself here, because I know there are a lot of women out there feeling they've been wronged by a wife #2 and visa versa. But I'll tell you one thing, I might THINK a lot of things about the other one, but I sure don't let him know it. I stay out of all that. I don't mess with his phone and I don't call and drive him crazy when he is at the other house. His children are there and I want him to be with them spending QUALITY time as much as he can. When he's here with me, he makes me feel like I am the ONLY thing that exists in his world and that's all I need. I don't care what goes on over there. That's not my space. I didn't cause the problems, the damage, and I'm not a homewrecker or a paid HO. The damage was done long before he found me. And I can't fix it. I just have to try to live my own life with him and be the best wife I can be for him. I've been through only one instance that could have actually drove me nuts but Alhamdulillah God was with me when it all happened and I didn't lose my wits. Wife #1 got the oldest child to call me one day, said she'd seen text messages from me to him...oh boy......I know she had me on speaker phone and they all got an ear full. I think they must have thought like a lot of people do......homewrecker.......HO......but yeah, by the Grace of God I was able to keep myself quiet and sweet, quote the Quran, admonishing them for suspicion and tampering with his cell phone.....I haven't heard from them again. They've done everything they can to make it hard on him and you know what.......it draws him closer to me. So think about that........drive him away or draw him closer.....I'll take what I've got any day. My sheikh/wali and also my husband have both told me several times, just in talking, not because of anything going on, that we have to learn this.....it's all new. And a woman can have anything she wants from a man. She just has to know how to get it. God has given us clear instructions on how to get it and it sure isn't by snooping around on his cell phone.
Maybe there WILL come a day when I have to use a walker and struggle to get him in a wheel chair, then load him in a van to haul him over there to see her and his children. I can see that. I will do it when that day comes. I love him that much. I can only hope and pray that by the time that day comes, her heart will have changed and she would do the same thing for me.
Safa you have been an inspiration to many, myself as much as anyone. You've seen some hard times and you've got that fighting spirit. You want your husband all to yourself and there's nothing wrong with that. You didn't choose this life for yourself. And he hasn't always done right by you and your children. But it does seem like he is able to afford you all a good life. From what you say, it seems like there is nothing material that you really want for. You don't have to work outside your home or ever wonder where your next meal is coming from. You have a comfortable home, a maid, good vehicles to drive. You and your children are able to dress nicely. You are able to send them to private schools and have tutors come to your home. You are able to take your children for recreational and shopping excursions. You really do have a lot there in Egypt. Would you be able to live that lifestyle without his support?
There's a lot to consider in this as you well know. Sometimes these things, these matters, they become obsessions. You feel out of control sometimes but I've discovered that when I feel out of control, it's when I am trying to control. We need to stop trying to control people and situations and let God, Our Most Gracious and Merciful, do His work. He knows what is best for us but sometimes we just have to get out of His way and stop trying to fix things so He CAN work.
I love you and wish you all the best and I keep you in my prayers. And as I said in the beginning, I hope I haven't offended you or anyone or hurt anyone's feelings. This is all just some food for thought.
~Maggie
7:08 PM
Excellent post Maggie! You gave the advice I have been trying to give for the last year been able to do so effectively. Insha'Allah Safa will take your words to heart.
Salaam Alaikum,
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1:42 AM
This is one of the best comments I've read in a long time. You give me much to think about....much to consider.
Where I may not agree with you on all points....but I love what you've said anyways...
Thanks.
3:10 AM
salam aleikum
I agree with Maggie. It's not that I don't understand how hurt you are Safa, but the reality of the situation is that when you treat a man the way you treat your husband, you are pushing him away. Goodness knows he's not doing right by you. But when you come to him as an injured victim nonstop, or angry, it is just not going to work. You will just push him. You feel justified in being angry and you lash out. He in turn feels injured (yes, that's right, he feels injured by you) and justified in being angry and hurting you. It will go on forever that way until one of you decides to break it down and just love the other unconditionally and selflessly. It is as if the two of you say to each other, "You give me an excuse for my bad behavior, and I'll do the same for you!"
5:07 AM
Yup, Cherie. And someone very kindly pointed that out to me before Ramadan. I've been working on that, and on keeping my house peaceful. And you know what? It's working......
And I loved Maggie's comment sooo much!
7:52 AM
Good, I hope it all goes well for you. Inshallah.
11:58 AM
Dear Safa,
Love this article on Forgiveness ... "At some point in our lives we may be on the receiving end of someone else’s failings and weaknesses, where they just forget to treat you with dignity and honour...."
Please read it here
May Allah help all of us react with His guidance in mind.
12:44 PM
I'm younger and haven't been married as long as most everyone who has been commenting so I decided not to post anything. But after reading the last few comments, like Maggie's, I have to say I'm really impressed by the wisdom and maturity behind the words. May Allah spare me from ever experiencing such pain, but if I am ever in a situation where I hurt like this, I pray that He gives me the wisdom and maturity to see beyond my feelings and do what is best for me, my faith, and my children. May Allah reward all of you and keep us all happy and content with our lives. ameen.
12:51 PM
Haha now he's got a pissed wife nagging in each ear. Sucker brought it upon himself. hilarious!
1:01 PM
Asalaam alaikum,
You know what completely peeves me off?
Thinking back to all your posts when he was in CDA. He never answered your calls. I'm not trying to stir up the pot or anything. But he gave her the courtesy of not talking to you in front of her. Why shouldn't he give you the same? Because she seems like a pushier person? InshaAllah I hope he starts giving you the respect you deserve.
2:11 PM
Salamu alaykum,
Funny thing is my husband say if you have 2 wives and they bicker and cause nothing but fitnah when you get the third it balances thing out and it's usually more peaceful for the husband. He knows some brother where this was the case - I can't imagine that being the case - to me it's more like pouring oil on a fire that's already burning, but supposedly this has worked out in some cases.
4:52 PM
as-salaamualaikum
safa-sorryspacebar
isjacked-alltheway-up.this-is
ummukatheer-afewpoints:
1.i-am-a-first-wife-of-10yrs,5kids,
themaid,nanny,cook,lover,friend,
wifeafterhours
(sleepingtimeofkids=afterhrwifewithdh)
2.mostimportantlythough-a-slave
ofAllah.we-haveto-remember-itsnice-to
hear-a'jazakAllahu
khairan',thankuhoney,etc,butfirstly
why-do-we-expect-ourhusbands-to-
validate-us-and-give
us-self-esteem-and-worth?
-go-into-any-action,withbismillah
andknowingthatAllahwillrewardus,
regardlessif-dh
isgratefulornot,andmuch
betterthan-thedh-EVER-can
3.makeurrelationshipwithurdh,
whether-or-not-thereis-anotherwife,
becausesheisnot-theprob,theprob-
istheufeeling-unconfident
in-ur-marriage,
makes-u-resent-andfeeljealousMORE,
thats-a-fact.
4.be-open-withhim,
after-getting-back-the-trust,
bysharingurfeelings,notcoveringthem,
mendontlike,'beatingbehindthebush'
theyloveconfidentwomen',
weknow-this-so-be-that-woman,tryfor
sake-of-Allah-and-for-
ur-own-sanity
bc-without-this,you-willfeel
like-ur-not-getting
anywhere-intherealtionship-
as-far-as
gaining/keeping-hislove,
but-dont-make-that-the
ultimategoal,
he-has-to-realize-that
ur-special-and-should-appreciate
-the-things
u-do-for-him,and-cover-
urmistakes.try-to-be
a-better-person-in-all-ways,
again-not-for
trying-to-out-do-the-
other-women,but
for-ur-own
development-as-awoman,
living-in-this-dunya-trying
to-get-our-ultimategoal,
whichisnot-our
husbandslove,but-the-Jannah,
where-there-is-no-jealousy,
nobadfeelings,etc.ourhusbandisnot
ourlife,he-is-a-piece-of-ourlife,
thatsvaluedandcherished.
try-to-beleive-that-he
loves-u
another-thing-is-that-some-newer-
wives-are-jealous-that-they-might
think-the-previous-wife-knows-how
tokeep-her-husband-happy,and-knows
all-his-secrets,etc.anywaythe-point
is-that-we-have-to-make-sure-we,as
any-wife,1-4,are,trying-to-be
the-best,inthesightofAllah,
that,the-bestofus,arethosewho-
have-the-most
Taqwa,fearandloveofAllah.
not-who-has-thebest-looking-body,
themostortheleastkids,whose
thefunniest
orwhatver,buthow-we-do
what-we-do,sincerely-for-thesake
ofAllah,notpurely,forthesakeof
a,person,even,ifthatperson-
is-our-husband.
we-should-be-busy-looking
at-our-faults,andtryingto-compete
ingettingthemostblessings
wecan,with,orwithout
this-p-situation
p-is-a-situation,where-men-seem
selfish,well-u-b-selfish,and,improve
urself
onemorething,
p-for-us,forsome-of-us-
wives,maybeourmeanstothejannah,
becauseAllahwallahi,He-knowsthe-
heartache,pain,andpateince-
that-we-endure,
by-living-in-p.we-ask-
Allah-to-changethat-pain,
and-hurt,into
the-good-for,us-
now,in-this-dunya,and-
in-the-next-life.
Ameen.Ameen.Ameen.
1:04 PM
Hard reading Ummukatheer....but good advice!! Masha Allah! Ameen. Ameen. Ameen!!!
11:58 PM
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