Ho Hum.....sheesh.....
I am going home to Egypt. I will leave everything to Allah. I will enjoy a peaceful Ramadan. (thanks Cairogal) I will go back to what I know. I cannot save my husband. I have to save my children. I must be an obedient wife. I must love Allah above all, more than I love or desire anything else. I am making the best decision. If there is any hope at saving my marriage, it's not in this country. I can achieve Jennah by being a good wife, not a nasty one. One day, I will remember to look back at these horrible days and rethink everything. What you want, cannot be taken by push and shove easily, when you can give it in kindness. Tests from Allah are cleansing. I am going home to Egypt.
Will give details later.


38 Comments:
Asalamu Walaikum,
Huh? Why do I feel crushed? After your last post it's just so much drama between DH and MM...it would be exhausting just to READ about you inbetween it constantly. Why would grown-ups(DH & MM) want that crap? Is that what mid-life crisis is all about?
>I cannot save my husband. I have to save my children.
It's already written down for them Safa, just keep doing your best...Masha Allah.
May Allah make your rankings high, ameen.
2:04 AM
Dearest Safa,
I don't like to think of it in terms of obedience and I hope that you are not letting your husband lay that on you. I do, however, think in terms of what is best for you and the girls to be returning to Egypt. You have said yourself that you have a comfortable life there and I also think distance from your husband's insanity is wise.
That said, I would make sure that you have your own and your daughters passports at all times and will have all avenues open to you should you decide to leave there.
Love you, Sis. Take some time and distance to get your feet back under you. Then focus on you and your kids. he is his own worst problem (not you; not Crystal and not even MM) and you cannot do anything about his self-destructive determination that you haven't tried. Insha'Allah.
Salaam Alaikum,
PM
6:33 AM
Thanks PM......ur the greatest. (after Ummabdurrahman, of course......case she's listening!!)
6:44 AM
Salam Safa,
I think you are right, it is best to spend Ramadan in an environment you control and focus on the month in the proper atmosphere. Big hugs.
7:14 AM
I think you have made a wise decision!!!
8:27 AM
Allah with you habibty. I am sure you know what's best for you and your family.
Ramadan Mubarak in advance.
10:27 AM
HA printed this poem on her blog a while back(can't recall the title), but I recall someone sharing it with me in high school. Here's an excerpt that sticks in my head some 20 years later:
"...with my head held high, with the grace of a woman, not the grief of a child..."
That one single line has served to pull me up more times than I can count over the years.
We are approaching this special time of the year for even more peace, reflection, generosity, focus, and devotion. Head held high, Safa. Grace of a devoted woman, Safa. Just look at those 4 beautiful reasons should you ever doubt your decision.
12:44 PM
Asalamalaykom Safa,
Hold on just a minute...OK?
Asalamalaykom Musulmana,
Your comments are so loaded to Safa. Maybe you think all that, but why dump it on her?
"Thank God it's not me," you write.
"But what I ma not sure of is what dua should I make for a sister that has a chance to leave her marriage but doesn't want to?" you add.
It sounds like you are dissapointed in her decision and now that she's not making the same choice as you THINK you would make you're hanging up your hat as advice-giver.
I wrote THINK in all caps, because you aren't in her situation. None of us are...even me; I am only in a simmilar situation. So, you are shaking your head in disbelief at a choice you really and truly might make yourself if your life changed.
I'm still in the advice-giving business and I'll just say that it's great to give feedback when a person needs it to make a decision. Safa has asked many times for our eyes and ears. But, when you read that she is going back to Egypt, after weeks of trudging through yucky muck, why begrudge her? Just wish her peace without the passive-agressive posting. I think if you re-read your comments, you'd have to agree that you come across as more concerned about your own feelings than hers.
Now back to Safa...
Asalamalaykom again Dear Safa,
I would love to spend Ramadan in Egypt! I know you have mixed feelings about leaving, but you are whisking your children away from a confusing time and place. May they feel at home in Egypt once again. May your husband realize, while you are gone from his side, how much you mean to him. Yarub! May MM find the straight path. Do you make du'a for her?
I use to make du'a for my hub's ex, until she was breathing down my neck. I stopped, but recently, I've started again. Her knowing the right way is beneficial to everyone.
May everyone reading of these new events in your life appreciate how hard this time has been for you. A weaker woman would have crumbled under the weight. But you have MASHALLAH such a good faith in Allah, Habibi! I trust your decision completely because I know that, enshahallah, you are with Allah.
1:03 PM
Salamu alaykum
Al hamdulilaah, obedience to the husband is a good thing for a muslim woman to practice as
it is one of the ways to get jannah. May Allah make it easy for you and bless you with all that is good.
1:10 PM
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2:26 PM
Safa,
I haven't made any comments in a long time as I have no clue what to say. I wanted to let you know that I love you. Honestly, I have been a little gun shy after the rage that was brought awhile ago involving all the anonymous comments.
I'm currently spamming the comment areas of my friends here. I hope this may add a smilie on your pretty face. It is in reference to a few posts ago.
Click Here :0 P
2:41 PM
Salam Alaykum
Safa.... i don't know what to say. I just wish you the best wherever life takes you. I pray you will stop suffering, wherever you are, and that your husband will stop stifling your life, your children, and your womanhood under the weight of his rotten, debased nafs. Salam.
4:35 PM
safa - if it's worth anything, i think you made the right decision. love you.
5:31 PM
Asalamu Walaikum everyone...Safa, thanks for hosting...just wanted to point out...
>I realize now that not all sister "want for themselves what I want for myself".
Inshallah we do...We all want Allah's rewards in Jennah. We all can and do take very different routes to find the right path.
Asalamu Walaikum
7:36 PM
Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Life is tough!
May Allah bless you and you family
11:43 PM
To Honorary Arab: When you people put yourself out on the internet, do you really expect that everyone who reads you will only stroke you by the hairs? From her own husband Safa has accepted to be told to Fuck off, and this is one of the minor things she has accepted by this man, but when Musulmana or myself vehemently disagree with your public postings and find that your actions are everything from silly to outright dumb and use the bloggercomment option to voice this you are upset to a ridiculous degree. If you wan`t nothing but candyspeach and du3a`s I suggest ya all make a yahoo-group where you can kiss eachothers asses in a locked forum. On the free internet you will encounter people who will actually strongly word themselves in an opposing manor. Get used to it or get off the blogosphere.
Over at PM`s world I am not allowed to be myself, a Kafira. She is such a coward that she closes her eyes to quranic teachings. So here goes again PM from FK:
You deleted my post, so I will post it again. You call yourself Peaceful Muslimah as this is your faith. According to your faith I am a Kafir. So I have total right to call myself Kafira. Muslimah is your identity, Kafira is mine. How can you be offended and refuse someone to use the words of the quran to describe themselves?
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/glossary/term.KAFIR.html
When you read the quran,do you close your eyes when the word kafir is mentioned?
But they who disbelieve (wa'llazina kafaru), and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein (al-Baqarah 2:39).
9:12
Wa-in nakathoo aymanahum min baAAdi AAahdihim wataAAanoo fee deenikum faqatiloo a-immata alkufri innahum la aymana lahum laAAallahum yantahoona
09:023
Inna allatheena ishtarawoo alkufra bial-eemani lan yadurroo Allaha shay-an walahum AAathabun aleemun
003:177
Inna allatheena ishtarawoo alkufra bial-eemani lan yadurroo Allaha shay-an walahum AAathabun aleemun
Your banning me from calling me what the qurans states I am tells me you are ashamed of some of the content of the quran. I also posed the question, how would you feel if my kafira-site denied people to use nicks with the word muslm in them. Deleting was your answer. Coward!
PK
Fighting Kafira
Writing to Safa earlier I said that she had stayed in Egypt due to monetary reasons, something wich she vehemently denied. In her QA-post she admits that this is acutally the case:
Safa: " Financial....he gives me lots of money in Egypt. A lot. At the same time, he yells at me for it. He has told me that he's going to cut it down. He has bought me a villa, a mansion in all aspects, and it has been sitting for a year, needing renovations and we can't move in. I've got a full time maid and live in gardener already there, waiting to serve me. In egypt, I drive a mercedes. It's nice, but I'd give it all up to have a full time husband."
Now she is tottering back to this most likely because the living-conditions he can provide in Canada are not even close to what he can in Egypt and she has her co-wife in her face in Canada. I don`t even know why I am bothing to write this, but I was irritated on Musulmana`s behalf. She has voiced her opinion, it makes ya all feel uncomfortable with the choices you make, wich we point out are stupid to us, a muslim and a Kafir, looking in from the outside, then you put on your islamic garb and chastise her for her very sound opinon wich you openend up for when you started blogging. Makes you feel good and holy na, "Honorary". You are perfect muslimahs. There is no community or people in the world who are more active in hitting the delete button when someone opposes you and make you feel uncomfortable. Hide under the rug what bothers you, flee from your problems, lay down in du3a and cry cry away.
I think ya all suffer from fathercomplexes and want to be mommied on the internet by those who will only advice you as you please. But thanks to all of you for blogging out your sad lives, everytime you fall flat on your faces I and my friends get a good laugh.
Not so kind regards as she predicts a deleted post to pop up here later.
Fighting Kafira
5:22 AM
She's just a bird she'll only fly away, but she knows where her home is, and she knows where her heart is ~ in Nellie Furtado groove.
I know that you are doing what is best for you and your girls. I pray for you and wish you all the best. If it so happens that he cuts you off after you get over there due to technical difficulties probably what are you going to do? I would suggest going back to school, you can get a degree online and since Egypt isn't that expensive he can foot the bill. I think that is the least that he can do since he isn't handling the two wife thing very well. He could probably do better if you had an actual "CO" wife instead of an "Anti" wife. Hell tell him to go back to Crystal at least she was nice to talk to.
We pray for you.
AsSalaamu A'laikum
5:50 AM
Kafira, Well if you used language like that so vehemently on someones blog that really doesn't want to deal with it, then it is their blog and if they choose to delete it guess what, they can. You claim that the blogsphere is not the place to hide from censure, again I believe you are wrong, it is the place. Open message boards are the place to post whatever you want. If you post on someones blog then you suffer to be censured by their whims. If you feel that is wrong you are free not to post.
Obviously the sister has enough going on, the energy it would take to debate with you is probably over the top. So if she deletes a comment on her blog you are free to link to her blog and post your comment on yours and if anyone so wishes to argue your points then they will come to your place to do it.
But really who has that time?
Peace out.
7:06 AM
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10:56 AM
bismillahir rahmanir raheem.
All Praise is Due to Allah, Lord of all the worlds.
assalaamu ^alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu. subhanAllah safa, always the one to insight such passionate comments.
to kafira: well, one thing i do have to say is that you understand something that so many MUSLIMS fail to get and that is what the true definition of a kafir is. and you most definitely are one. what baffles me is how you seem to take that as some badge of honour. if you are not guided to the deen of al-Islam before you die, you will truly find out that being a kafir is anything but honorable.
on another note: the thing that makes our naseehah (advice) to safa sincere is that it is given without hidden ultimatums or expectations. safa on more than one occassion has directly asked for our naseehah. what she has not done is preceded her requests for naseehah with the promise that she will do what we tell her to do. there is a difference between 'advising" and "condemning." there is a differenc between giving advice and giving a command.
safa: i love you with all my heart because you are my sister in islam. you know my views about your situation. you will continue to be in my duaa.
aneesa
10:57 AM
The exact definition of 'kafir' has been debated. I was instructed that a kafir is not just a non-believer, but one who once believe in God, and later lost faith. 'Kafir' being used to talk about non-Muslims is not accurate.
11:45 AM
assalaamu ^alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu all:
defining who is a "kafir" is important and is an issue that the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, his Companions radee Allahu ^anhum, and the early generation of Muslims did not have any debate about simply because Allah subhanahu wa ta^ala has made it clear in the Qur'aan.
the debate around this issue is a fairly new one in the context of the history of islam, however, it is a debate in which the arguments of one side are weak and baseless, whereas the arguments of the other side are fully supported by the Qur'aan, the tafseer of the Qur'aan, and the Sunnah. i have access to a very good essay on this issue in which the author breaks down the work "kafir" linguistically, gives its Shari'ah meaning according to Qur'aan and Sunnah, and refutes the present-day arguments made about the word, again using evidences from the Qur'aan and Sunnah. if anyone wants to read this essay they can visit my page and email me directly.
due to the essay's length i will not post it here, however, i will post this:
"Among the signs of the Hour will be the emergence of a beast from the
earth. It will be very strange in appearance, and extremely huge; one
cannot even imagine what it will look like. It will emerge from the earth
and shake the dust from its head. It will have with it the ring of Solomon
and the rod of Moses. People will be terrified of it and will try to run
away, but they will not be able to escape, because such will be the decree
of Allah. It will destroy the nose of every unbeliever with the rod, and
write the word "Kafir" on his forehead and it will adorn the face of every
believer and write the word "Mu'min" (true believer) on his forehead, and
it will speak to people.
"It was reported from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa
sallam) said, "The Beast of the Earth will emerge, and will have with it
the rod of Moses and the ring of Solomon." It was also reported that he
said, "(The Beast) will destroy the noses of the unbelievers with the
ring, - so that people seated around one table will begin to address one
another with the words "O Believer (Mu'min)!" or "O Unbeliever (Kafir)!" (i.e., everyone's status will become clear). (Ibn Majah.)"
so, from the above hadeeth we can see that there is no grey area when it comes to classifying people. you either are a Believer or you are a non-Believer. the word for a person without belief ("belief" here meaning belief in the Oneness of Allah, in ALL the Prophets, in the Angels, in ALL the revealed Books, among other things), in Arabic is Kafir. Kafir is not some derogatory term. it is simply a term of distinction and classification.
1:37 PM
I do not believe in islam, I do not believe in any god, that totally qualifies me as a Kafira according to quran and sunnah. mizazeez: Thank you for validating my status. Finding islam untrue and unacceptable, why should I not be proud to be a Kafira? I don`t believe in judgmentday, heaven or hell and eternal punishments, that threat is wasted on a true Kafira..;-) This is your faith and your hope for me, that I be punished gruesomely and eternally for not believing in what you do and acting as you think I should. Yes, I am proud to reject islam, just as proud and happy as you are to accept islam.I don`t find it negative to be a Kafira, it means I reject quran and hadith and to me that is a good thing. My values are as far from islam as they can be, and I am pleased with the journey I have made in life and am happy to have found out I am a Kafira..:-)
Muhammed: Ever heard of Tough Love?
I may or may not have felt for Safa in the beginning, this is for me to know, and for you to ponder about...;-) As her story unravels I, as a kafira, found her to be putting her children (and herself) needlessly through emotiontinal abuse and severe stress due to seeing their mother in such a state. This came out in Safa`s trip to the restaurant where her dd revealed that this was a fact and Safa suffered immensely due to that incident. What ticked me off in the first place was the suffering of the girls, as I feel for the children of Safa, they are kids and it is Safa`s job to protect them. I didn`t find her to do so, and commented on it. No, I did not put icing on the cake I served, as you said "But really who has that time?" I spoke from my kafir-gut. When writing, I also do not speak directy and only to Safa. As pointed out, many people, muslim and non-muslims read this site. I have seen too many a time what I would label as sado-masochistic sisters bang down a sister who is speaking from another point of view. I was aggrevated on musulmanas behalf, she felt she had to leave commenting as the Muttawa`s starting picking on her. How pleased she was with a Kafira defending her, I am not sure..lol
I was once in Safa`s shoes many years ago, no kids involved though, although we had just discussed the matter and decided to make a go for it. My muslim husband took another wife unknown to me. He lied and deceived. He got booted out the very same day I found out. He came back running many a time begging for me to take him back, but all he was served was divorce-papers. Trust and honesty through full disclosure is key number one to a sucsessfull marriage, polyganmous (for those who accept this) or monogamous.
I live by the rule "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME"
Safa has been fooled by her husband so many times now, and had been by the time I commented the first time, so by my creed, the shame is now on her for letting herself stay in a situation where she is repeatedly fooled and lied to. When coming to Canada she made a statement that she was "running to him" and this must have given him a great boost of confidence that she will continue on this path and he may continue to fool and deceive. Safa has stated that her biggest fear is change. Had she not run after this man but instead asserted herself, oppressed her fear of change and put her faith in allah and said khalas, he might be running after her instead, like my ex-hubby did, and this is a desire of Safa, I know. Safa`s husband caters to the every whim of the woman you call MM (something wich I find totally ludicrous, you try to take away his responsiblity for own actions by putting it on his new wife, and the comments made by ya all on this woman you don`t know, is this really in good islamic adab?) She seems assertive enough and get him running. Safa however just find him running away. As far as this Kafira can see, the obedient wife-strategy has failed. And another question, you desire to achieve jannah through your husband Safa, but he is behaving totally unislamically. Will you really achieve that by accepting to bow your head to a man who lies, deceives, marries women who are illigitimate for him (I suspect co-wife Chrystal is not a chaste christian and thus prohibited in marriage, she is most likely a fellow Kafira of mine) and according to shariah shoud be stoned (if the scenario of the fooling around before nikah with the morrocan wife is true). Due to his unfair treatment, will he not also according to hadith walk very very crooked on the day of ressurection? Does one in islamic theology achieve jannah through obeying a husband who is straying so much from the deen and has an abundance of punishment coming to him before allowed into jannah?
A somewhat kinder regards
Kafira
3:02 AM
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3:38 AM
cairogal said...
"The exact definition of 'kafir' has been debated. I was instructed that a kafir is not just a non-believer, but one who once believe in God, and later lost faith. 'Kafir' being used to talk about non-Muslims is not accurate."
I will give you a couple of fatwas here, but you may be more knowlegdable then Mufti Ebrahim Desai and Shaykh Ibn Baaz of Islam-QA
http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=1d77c8591dce5e6ac23f0a07c9f6e967
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=67626&ln=eng&txt=kaafir
Even regarding Muhammeds parents, he regarded them to be in hell:
Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=47170&ln=eng
Who are the Jews and Christians who will enter Paradise?
The aayah (interpretation of the meaning), “And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85] is a statement that Allaah will not accept any way or deed from anyone, after sending His Final Messenger, except those that are in accordance with the laws of Muhammad
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=2912&ln=eng
Maybe you can write those shayks and the mufti and correct them in their misunderstanding of islam cairogal?
3:54 AM
to kafira: just out of curiosity, were you at one time muslim?
also, my first faith and hope for you is not that you "be punished gruesomely and eternally" for not believing in Islam, but that whatever it is that has turned your heart away from the deen does not get in the way of you one day accepting (or re-accepting) the Haqq. people burning eternally in an-Naar, whether you or anyone else, Kafir or Muslim (because the Fire can touch them to), is not something that I sit and rejoice about, however I accept and am pleased with the Judgment of Allah as stated in the Qur'aan and Ahadeeth. Qadr Allah wa Masha'Allah (which i'm assuming you also know the meaning of, even though you may not believe in it).
4:02 AM
Kafira,
I must say you are very wise about Islam for someone who is not muslim. You know all of the terminology and even know that it is bad islamic adab for us to talk about Safa's co-wife in the mannerisms that we do. You probably even know the verse 'O you who believe! Let not a group scoff at another group, it may be that the latter are better than the former, nor let women scoff at other women, it may be that the latter are better than the former, nor defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. How bad is it, to insult one's brother after having faith. And whosoever does not repent, then such are indeed wrongdoers....and spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it so hate backbiting. And fear Allah."
May Allah guide you to the truth. May Allah guide us all to better and more righteous conduct in our affairs.
You might be right in that Safa's co-wife does appear to have him running as she calls and he goes so there is something to that. I worry sometimes that her cowife or spouse might find out about this blog and then all h... will break lose! The internet is such a vast place and we know that Allah is capable of all things. Though I guess since she appears to just speak Arabic someone would really have to break it down for her.
Inshallah this won't happen.
5:49 AM
HOLY CRAP!! I'm gonna open me a can of Ass whoop!
10:28 AM
"I will give you a couple of fatwas here, but you may be more knowlegdable then Mufti Ebrahim Desai and Shaykh Ibn Baaz of Islam-QA"
and
"Maybe you can write those shayks and the mufti and correct them in their misunderstanding of islam cairogal?"
This may shock some of you, especially you, kafira, but lots of sheikhs out there are not teaching Islam according to the Quran. Surprise, surprise. This includes some that come out of Al Azhar. Muslims all around the world accept that not every sheikh, just like Catholics accept that not every priest in Catholicism, is offering sage advice based on the true teachings of the religion's holy book. But, with your clear ability to google, kafira, I'm quite shocked that you are so unaware of this.
I'm curious about some things, Kafira. I was not attacking you, by any means, until you unleashed that forked tongue of yours, riddled with sarcasm and bitterness, on me. For someone who is a self-proclaimed atheist, you've made a real blogging career out of sharing your knowledge of Islam.
"I was once in Safa`s shoes many years ago, no kids involved though, although we had just discussed the matter and decided to make a go for it. My muslim husband took another wife unknown to me. He lied and deceived. He got booted out the very same day I found out. He came back running many a time begging for me to take him back, but all he was served was divorce-papers. Trust and honesty through full disclosure is key number one to a sucsessfull marriage, polyganmous (for those who accept this) or monogamous."
Ah...it's now quite clear. I suspect you might have been a convert once yourself. Didn't work out, felt like hubby roped you in to the conversion, and then what? Did a number on you? Married another woman? It would seem your anger with Safa is sorely misdirected.
I may not think some of Safa's decisions are wise, but they're hers, not mine. Furthermore, up until her recent smackdown on you, she's never said anything unkind or offensive on this blog. So, I'm not quite sure why you would attack so viciously? Couldn't you find a more respectful way to communicate your opinion? Of course not. Because the person you're really angry with is yourself. Maybe you felt duped. Wished you got out sooner. Perhaps the marriage didn't end as quickly and as cleanly as you indicate. Of course, we wouldn't know that because you don't actual commit any of your life details to a blog. Nope. You just go surfing some else's and launch into a full-blown personal attack.
Most people on this blog offer advice based on their life experiences. The ones who tell you to 'dump his ass' are usually the ones who have never been in your shoes, or they've made what they consider to be the same mistake. The ones that tell you to stay? Many of them are enablers-most likely in similiar shoes, and hoping that if they can encourage you to stay in your situation, it somehow validates them staying in their situation. So which one are you, Kafira? The one who was once in the same shoes? What were you hoping to do when you posted? Encourage Safa?
I had started to write a comment about how I saw a core idea in your not-so-eloquent feedback. I thought that perhaps you were just that person trying to make Safa see that her relationship that was going nowhere. Now it would seem that are bitter and jaded, perhaps still angry at yourself for bad decisions involving your ex. Why not commit that story in writing, Kafira? On your own blog. I think there are loads of women who would love to read it. I'm sure they have wonderful advice.
7:52 PM
Kafira can't write it in a blog because then people would be judging her and she would be letting them in. Here in the comment box she is still unknown if she steps out of the box she is exposed and that is scary....
5:04 AM
SheShank! I think cairogal hit the nail on the head with that one Kafira.
My ex wife is jaded, we had problems she loved me very much and I loved her. She was trying to teach me a lesson and it went too far. So I divorced her and married the woman she pretended to be. She has my kids so she did the next thing she knew would piss me off. She became a Holy-Roller Christian. She's completely fronting and hiding from her mistake. I'm not saying that I was perfect, but I was innocent of the things she accused me of. We could have worked it out, but it didn't pan out that way.
Whenever you get divorced it hurts. It doesn't matter who is at fault and whether or not it is justified or not. If there was true love what will follow is true pain. It is only natural.
About tough love, well there's toughlove and then there's abuse. You my earthbound companion were abusive. Lending much more credence to what cairogal said. So here it is, this is Safa's blog but everyone is talking about you. Is that what you wanted? It is going to be OK Kafira girl the sun will come out tomorrow. There is no need to be jaded. After the sun there will be healing rain and then warm beautiful sun again. Whenever you are willing to rethink this Kafira thing we can talk. I'm sure that everyone you've offended here would be willing to talk to you as a human being Muslim or not.
As to your advice in your almost sensitive post. It is not your life, the first thing you should admit about giving advice is that most people are not going to take it. They may pass it on to someone else, but ultimately it is their decision. Can you swim the English Channel based off of the instruction and recommendation of a quasi-professional? If you are out of shape you are not going to make it. The same situation with Safa, they are her legs and she has to walk on them. She may hold on to the wall and not walk out in the open. She may crawl, but it is her walk to take. So there is no need to get all huffy now is there.
8:48 AM
The sun'll come out tomorrow...bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there'll be sun!
9:40 AM
Indeed, umm abdur-rahman, it is a sunny saturday morning in Seattle!
10:34 AM
just thinking about, tomorrow
wipes away the heartache and the sooorrrroooowwwwww.....til there's none!!!!
2:28 PM
And I thought I was a troll.
1:06 AM
Siding with ummabdur-rahman, your spelling of "surgerys" (should be surgeries) is wrong, Safa:-)
2:29 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that is so funny....You have been checked Safa.....
5:39 AM
uh huh. sheesh. (looking at ground) sheesh.
6:46 AM
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