Stop the pain in my head.......
Last night was particularly uneventive for a change....no rodents, cockroaches or hitmen. So I'm still alive. I started getting this tickle in my brain yesterday....thinking again.......sheesh. Will I ever get past all this???? And when I start thinking, I start getting ANGRY.....and what makes it worse....is that I say things are wrong....and hubby says that his actions were perfectly halal.....how can we both be right?
Some of the questions are:
-when he was buying gold for the wife I never was supposed to know about....he told me that he was buying it for his friends wife...and his friend was gonna pay him back for it.....now I know that some form of lying from the husband to the wife is permissable....but what the hell is this??? Is he justified to tell me these stories cuz his intention was to never tell me about this woman...she was just a "temporary wife" he calls it "gowaz al Musaffer"....which on it's own is haraam now, isn't it?? He says its not.......and even if it wasn't haram.....is he allowed to keep a marriage a secret under ANY circumstances? And isn't the only reason that he's even able to keep this marriage a secret is because I live in another country? Isnt' that taking advantage of my absence??
see what I mean?? It goes on and on........
-isn't talking to the present wife on the phone haraam when he wasn't even married to her? She sent him love messages on the cell......he bought her presents behind my back telling me it was for "business"....once ran on the balcony and closed the door on himself....before he married her...and later told me that it was "business".......all that before he married her.....Waaaay before.......how on earth can I trust him???
-the fact that he married and divorced once and was planning to not tell me.....and when it was flashed in front of my face......back in September...when his brother in Canada pulled this stunt in order that I find out.....when I asked him......wth is going on.....are you married?? And he answered me no. He had already divorced her.....but it was his chance to tell me.....he SHOULD have told me then...knowing that his brother wanted it to be known.....but he kept quiet......how could he justify himself for keeping quiet? And then later when I finally find out that he IS married to the present woman...and that there HAD been another....(not until mid Dec did I find out about present woman) and not until end of January did I confirm about the temporary one. And then he ups and tells me....But I never slept with the temporary one.......PUH LEASE.......and finally in the end of Feb....I get him to admit that was a lie. WTH!! Why the lie?? Why? Does he tell himself....I don't want to hurt her more...so I'll lie to make things easier??? Is that allowable in our deen???
So I'm going nuts today......wondering just what will happen when I get to Canada...SHOULD I get there. My one friend is telling me...just let it go....what has happened has happened. But it isn't working like that in my head......I'm saying......how on earth can I trust this man? Who takes his deen so flippantly....although he says, I've never done anything haraam.....he even told me once that he married the temporary woman to protect himself....LOLOL....so I asked him....did Allah make marriage to protect the man? Or is it to protect the woman? So he says BOTH......ok, ok, ok........but he made MAN responsible for them....not just a tool for sex and then to afterwards be thrown away........
I think I better stop now.....I feel like crying........I don't like myself today.....or my situation.......or my dealing with things.......I feel so overburdened........maybe when I get to Canada, SHOULD I get there, I can try to go and talk to a shaikh........


17 Comments:
Salams Safa
Can i ask, are you from Western or Eastern Canada? Just curious, cuz i am in Western. Anyway, i just wanted to say that hurting and putting up with abuse does not equal a "good" Muslimah. Yeah, patience is good up to the point where your rights, respect and peace of mind are trampled on. :( Patience isn't a tool for manipulation, either, but some men treat it as such. You know you're a good Muslim and human being, no need to have anyone treat you like you have to be endure cr@p and be patient to "deserve" respect and love. God, i just really feel for you and i get so angry when i read what's the latest thing your husband said or did to you. You mentioned in a comment on a previous post that he said you are "ruining his kids". The nerve of that man!!! Or was he talking to the mirror? The blindness and selfishness are just astounding. What he's doing is halal in which planet, i wonder? I hope that when you come to Canada you will gain some peace in your heart and clarity of thought. I'm not implying that your thoughts aren't clear, i'm just saying that it's not fair that all the hurt this man has done to you causes you live in a haze of numbness and doubt. May Allah grant you relief and peace.
Lots of hugs and dua.
11:50 PM
P.S. I hope you don't get mad cuz of my strong words in that comment. I'm sorry if that sounded preachy or mean. :[
11:52 PM
no offense taken on your comments....let me just state as I have many times....I love the variety.....I love what you said about....
"patience isn't a tool for manipulation"
"blindness and selfishness are just astounding"
"haze of numbness and doubt"
These phrases spoke right to my heart.....you said so well what I feel.......I appreciate your support......
1:21 AM
oops forgot to answer the first Q....I'm from Toronto...so that's pretty central don't ya think??? But I suppose it'll count as Eastern......I so hope that I find that clarity you speak of.....at least I shall be among an english speaking community...I actually have some friends...and I could talk to a sheikh quite easily........insha ALLAH
1:24 AM
Dear Safa,
What is this temporary marriage in Sunni Islam? I have heard of Muta'ah among the Shi'a but have never heard of a temporary marriage among Sunni.
As for the rest of your post, I can relate, because I know that at times it has been difficult to turn off the litany in my head of my own husband's transgressions. But again, I would say that time helps to heal -- when the transgressor truly learns the error of his ways, repents before Allah, and starts afresh on the straight path of Islam. You see, it is only his faith that can truly straighten your husband out. Without renewing and recentering his life around Allah, he will be inclined to continue seeking out the quick fix and immediate gratification of the haraam in this life.
I encourage you to consult an imam -- both individually and together.
Salaam Alaikum, dear sis,
PM
2:08 AM
hey safa. a note on temporary marriage (muta'ah) in islam. this was a practice that was permissable initially during the time of rasulullah but then was deemed haraam. it is still practiced by the shi'a, but point blank, it's haraam. it is so haraam that there is a whole chapter in sahih muslim in the "book of marriage" called "temporary marriage and its prohibition for all times to come" as well as ahadeeth in sahihul bukhari and sunan abu dawud that speak to it's being forbidden in islam. some hadeeth that speak to this are:
Sabra al-Juhanni reported on the authority of his father that while he was with Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) he said: 0 people, I had permitted you to contract temporary marriage with women, but Allaah has forbidden it (now) until the Day of Resurrection. So he who has any (woman with this type of marriage contract) he should let her off, and do not take back anything you have given to then (as dower). (Sahih Muslim, Book of Marriage, Chapter 4, Hadeeth No. 3255)
While we were in an army, Allah's Apostle came to us and said, "You have been allowed to do the Mut'a (marriage), so do it." Salama bin Al-Akwa' said: Allah's Apostle's said, "If a man and a woman agree (to marry temporarily), their marriage should last for three nights, and if they like to continue, they can do so; and if they want to separate, they can do so." I do not know whether that was only for us or for all the people in general. Abu Abdullah (Al-Bukhari) said: 'Ali made it clear that the Prophet said, "The Mut'a marriage has been cancelled (made unlawful)." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 7, Book of Marriage, Hadeeth No. 4782)
3:44 AM
Initially when the present wife asked him to marry her...(with a text message on his cellphone..sheesh!!) After my bout of crying and such...me and hubby sat on our bed and were looking at Fiqh us Sunnah....we read the same hadeeths....and he pointed out the bit about zawaj as Saffar....(of course, guiltily in his mind, cuz he had already done and finished with this issue...maybe trying to feel me out??) And I said clearly....that there would be no reason for him to have this sort of marriage...he is neither, "A traveller" in Canada...(Having lived there 16 yrs) and he can come home anytime...as well, we CHOSE this lifestyle together and just as he have difficulties to bear without me, so do I have difficulties to bear without him. And when we read about the part where a man doesn't have to take permission to marry the 2nd wife...I also CLEARLY told him, that I wouldn't prefer that.....that I would feel he decieved me. And once deceit enters a marriage it leaves the door open for the shaytan. (which it has) We didn't find the part where it said that temporary marriage was deemed haraam....but I found it much later when I was in the know on things. I accused hubby of being Shi'a....to which he laughed....he said gowaz al Musaffer isn't haraam...and when I pushed the point....he said...FINE, it was a real marriage, OK???? But I knew I wasn't keeping her! (same thing, right??) She was a christian woman with 3 kids who he met at Tim Hortons where she worked. He used to buy a coffee every morning from her....and one of hubby's friends...(a muslim) decided to bring her to hubby's work and introduce them. You GOT TO BE KIDDING!!! But you see how crazy and stupid things are....I can't win. If I could just be dispassionate about things...and have it OUT with him.....and he'd really try harder to be a good muslim......I have to think about what I want to accomplish in Canada.....
5:12 AM
Being that you are in Egypt, that means your hubby is from Egypt, right? If I didn't know better, I'd think our hubbies were related! (But my hubby is from Syria...so don't think so.) I hadn't read this post of yours yet before I wrote my not-so-upbeat post about my latest drama...but our husbands sure sound like they do the same thing...and then lie about it...and then blame us for all the problems. I'm not feeling so well either....I wish I could offer some light in this cave of darkness. I hope when you get to Canada you'll be able to get things straight for yourself and your girls. At least I don't have any children to worry about right now. I'm not sure I could be strong enough to take care of them and myself, like you do, masha'Allah.
8:42 AM
There are time when you have to let stuff go... and there are times when you shouldn't. As I've said to myself, if hubster had hit or beaten, I would have been out the door in a flash, no doubts, no misgivings, get the heck away. But when someone is tooling with you emotionally, it is much more difficult to make the decision when the line has been crossed. I think the line has been crossed when you have to question yourself constantly as to what you have done wrong, when you never get a straight answer after repeated attempts with questions, when the blame for any situation you have trouble with gets turn around onto you.
Second -- So your hub has been married two other times while you've been married. You don't know these girls, he didn't know these girls' prior lives. That being said, go get tested for all the ickies when you get to Canada - gonorrhea, clamydia, herpes, hiv , the whole nine yards.
I wish I could be more positive about your situation. I don't think polygyny is a bad thing in and of itself. I think three (or more) willing partners with a good relationship and no jealousy issues can do this just fine. But most of us probably can't.
I know that many folks go off on the "its a sunnah and its my (his) right" tangent, but the sunnah is NOT a checklist. "Hmm, beard, check, short pants, check, second wife, check..." Its a way to live life, but it shouldn't be some lifeless checklist. The ayat about marrying the multiple wives said not to do it you can't treat them all fairly.
9:33 AM
There are time when you have to let stuff go... and there are times when you shouldn't. As I've said to myself, if hubster had hit or beaten, I would have been out the door in a flash, no doubts, no misgivings, get the heck away. But when someone is tooling with you emotionally, it is much more difficult to make the decision when the line has been crossed. I think the line has been crossed when you have to question yourself constantly as to what you have done wrong, when you never get a straight answer after repeated attempts with questions, when the blame for any situation you have trouble with gets turn around onto you.
Second -- So your hub has been married two other times while you've been married. You don't know these girls, he didn't know these girls' prior lives. That being said, go get tested for all the ickies when you get to Canada - gonorrhea, clamydia, herpes, hiv , the whole nine yards.
I wish I could be more positive about your situation. I don't think polygyny is a bad thing in and of itself. I think three (or more) willing partners with a good relationship and no jealousy issues can do this just fine. But most of us probably can't.
I know that many folks go off on the "its a sunnah and its my (his) right" tangent, but the sunnah is NOT a checklist. "Hmm, beard, check, short pants, check, second wife, check..." Its a way to live life, but it shouldn't be some lifeless checklist. The ayat about marrying the multiple wives said not to do it you can't treat them all fairly.
9:33 AM
"I know that many folks go off on the "its a sunnah and its my (his) right" tangent, but the sunnah is NOT a checklist. "Hmm, beard, check, short pants, check, second wife, check..." Its a way to live life, but it shouldn't be some lifeless checklist. The ayat about marrying the multiple wives said not to do it you can't treat them all fairly."
Very well put.....
11:21 AM
Suban-Allah. Safa, I pray that Allah brings you and your girls clarity with ease, aameen. I don't know in which direction I would walk if I were in your situation. So much preciousness is involved, you, the girls, the family, etc. I definitly agree with J as far as patience is concerned. Your rights are being infringed upon and that's haraam. I once heard a sister say when giving advice to another "How can you expect him (the husband) to give you your rights when he doesn't even give Allah His".Of course there is no comparison between you or any other human being and Allah. But what I am trying to convey is that when the haqq is brought to someone who knows better and they still do other wise then they have disobeyed Allah first and foremost everybody else can't possibly get their due. May Allah give guide you in all your decisions. Aameen. Love you, fisibillah.
12:36 PM
I was really thinking to get tested for the ickies many times here in Egypt. But somehow can't get up the nerve.....they would LOOK at me at the center weird. Not the usual testing, u know?? I wonder if in Canada that stuff is free? Even wife # 2, although muslim, her hubby was married to a french woman before her....and used to make frequent visits to Montreal.....God knows why. (Montreal is known for their prostitutes) But I have to do that soon.....maybe even before I go back to Canada
2:17 PM
is it all a blood test? Can you give me a list of what you think I should be tested for??
2:19 PM
I am not telling you to leave your husband. Well, maybe I am, but its still your decision. I have a low tolerance for bullshit and I have a safety net if I decide I don't need to be married anymore. Many people do not have either - that's not bad, just they way it is.
As for testing, your ob/gyn or family physician should be able to do most of the test through your pap smear and some blood work. Your doctor has to keep your information confidential (here in the states - don't know about Canada, hope so) so anything you tell them is held in confidence. Say your husband had an affair or something if you need to justify why you need blood work... its not *That* far off from the truth, aoudu billah minash shaitan ir rajeem.
Don't take me too seriously or let what I say cut. I tend to, even in real life, say what I feel and cut to the chase. I don't like being oblique.
5:36 AM
I love ur comments, Aoife....ur straight, no BS.....just express urself the way you want...I love it, really.....
10:30 PM
Under what circumstances can a man not ask his wife(wives) for permission before taking another wife? I have been instructed my an Islamic theologian that permission is a must (barring some horrifying condition that would prevent wife(wives) from consenting).
8:53 AM
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