Tuesday, May 22, 2007

Solutions are on my plate now......

Well thanks so much Joe King Gas Eyed.......I read up on the 2 titles that you offered....some interesting stuff here.....you remind me very much of a close friend of mine who is always trying to get me to read self help things.....she's a guru of top standing.....

So it is with interest that I read the two titles.....oh sure....I've only skimmed so far....cuz I'm a skimmer and then a reader....tending to focus on the points that I think apply to me, and then read in detail....that's why I've always read so fast. Can u imagine me with the red pen in my mouth while my finger is poised over the paragraphs? LOL....well that is me.....

From the first title...Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In by Roger Fisher and William Ury.....one of the paragraphs that just JUMPED out at me was this one...

"The last class of trick tactics are positional pressure tactics which attempt to structure negotiations so that only one side can make concessions. The tricky side may refuse to negotiate, hoping to use their entry into negotiations as a bargaining chip, or they may open with extreme demands. The principled negotiator should recognize this as a bargaining tactic, and look into their interests in refusing to negotiate. They may escalate their demands for every concession they make. The principled negotiator should explicitly identify this tactic to the participants, and give the parties a chance to consider whether they want to continue negotiations under such conditions. Parties may try to make irrevocable commitments to certain positions, or to make-take-it-or-leave-it offers. The principled party may decline to recognize the commitment or the finality of the offer, instead treating them as proposals or expressed interests."

This is SOOOOO much my hubby. He feels that I should be patient....therefore, I am making the concessions.....he feels that I should try to see things thru his eyes and feel compassion......he feels that I should just pretend that wife # 2 doesn't exist and go on with living my life.....he once lost his temper severely and was about to divorce me for asking for equal rights.....sigh.

So it's with interest that I read this paragraph....and wish that someone could give me scenarios to help me grasp the concept properly about what my role in negotiations will be?

I've narrowed down my fairytale.....which of course, I've known for some time.

Fairytale # 1....Hubby closes up shop in Canada, divorces wife # 2, comes to live in Egypt....we address the problems that led up to our marriage difficulties....he apologizes on one knee.....buys me extravagant gifts for the remainder of his life, begging my forgiveness.....

(HAHA...okay.....after apology everything else is negotiable)

Fairytale # 2.....He realizes that he has to stay in Cda for another 4 yrs because of contract difficulties...We decide that the kids and I should to come to Cda and continue those 4 yrs together in one country....wife # 2 would prolly blow a gasket and leave on her own accord....or stay for awhile....but at that point...I may not even care anymore.....

Okay...so there's my two fairytales.....

Here are my needs....

#1....no more polygyny....
#2...living together in one country




I think that's basic needs. I don't need more than that. Let me explain... the reason for no more polygyny is that I've been so emotionally scarred by my experiences that I don't think I could fairly continue in this relationship if P is the only option. It's like this burning cold in the pit of my stomach that just hurts me when I think of it. I've been betrayed and lied to..... and as much as I'd like to salvage my relationship..... I don't think I can unless those 2 basic needs are met. Otherwise, I sacrifice my deen and turn into this other person who is mean and bitter.... I feel this person lurking on the surface.


Living together in one country is for me as much as its for the kids. They need their father.....its already become very precarious.....my 9 yr old talks to me and calls her father the Master Joker because he married another woman and didn't tell us. She says that he only loves us sometimes instead of all the time. This attitude scares me.....and I do my best to stop it.....yet it is burning inside her. My 12 yr old cries when she is alone....she loves her father dearly and has the purest soul of all my girls. Very religious and spiritual.....but hurt and confused. I pray Allah to protect her. And the 14 yr old? She's lost. She pretends to enjoy her fathers company.....she pretends to be happy when he looks towards her.....but she's tired of his empty promises and feels the most loyalty towards me. When I try to make her understand some of her fathers' positions she just blows them off.....her father is not her hero anymore.

So anyways....those are my two needs. I wonder what this phone call will be like on June 9th? And yes....in some ways I'm really not ready to leave this man that I love.....subhanAllah......but it is time for Safa to make a stand for herself, for her children. And as much as the heart loves...the brain has to think.

Love without compromise is not a solution. So I'm looking for solutions....and have until June 9th to think about it now. Baby is here...my body has done it's part......so solutions are what's on my plate now......

7 Comments:

Blogger egianqueen said...

Keep the faith - you need to do what is best for your girls and for yourself. I am reminded of a postcard I used to keep on my fridge door in Canada - it was a picture of the huge Christus that is in the visitor's centre at the temple in Salt Lake City - and it says - "I never said it would be easy, I said it would be worth it". So keep strong - you know what your needs are - and that is of paramount importance. God/Allah does NOT want you to become a bitter, mean, hard person - he loves you as you are and you must do what is necessary for you to remain this wonderful, spiritual, kind, concerned, loving woman.

7:44 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Safa, I pray that Allah makes things easy and clear for you. You have been through so much drama with your hubby. I feel he has his priorities screwed up. While he is busy working on his business in Canada, his family is falling apart. Subhanallah! what scars are those girls going to carry their whole lives?what impressions do they have of the opposite sex when their father has been such a poor role model? You cant have it all but the least you can do is sit down and really figure out what is good for you and your loved ones, he seems to have failed in this. I dont know if this man will ever change, Allah knows best but at his age right now, if he doesnt know better I dont know if he ever will. I bet if you ask those kids if they would rather have a huge villa and all sorts of materialistic things or their father, they will say their father. But then again it may be too late especially with the older ones, they seem to be already disillusioned about their dad. I pity him for not recognising what blessings he has in having you and the beautiful kids, mashallah.

Your sis in islam,
Asmahan

11:41 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Subhanallah sister, what you said about your daughters just pierced my heart. That is the one issue these husbands dont take into account when they take on other wives. We're living in a society where muslims in general dont have any role models - so its even more important that the fathers are the only role models in their childrens lives.
A family where the parents are seperate - ask the children what they would want the most, and you will always get the answer: mum and dad to be together.
In my community polygamy is only taken in circumstances where the woman cant have any children, the wife is ill, relationship problems etc, you will find the famillies do get on. Primarily because all parties involved understand the reasons behind it.
And having read some of the blogs about polygamy, has opened my eyes to a whole world that i did not know existed. My opinion is that in most of these cases polygamy isnt working is because there is no real reason for taking another wife.
I sincerely pray that this wont have a detrimental effect on your children, inshallah.

Subhanallah, we have begun to understand some of the issues in a polygamy marriage because you have voiced them........but there are many many out there who wont have access to this medium, and will have no way of letting the world know about their trials and tribulations.

May Allah turn all out hardship into ease.

Starlight

2:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Safa,I am thinking of you.

9:12 AM

 
Blogger PM said...

Salaam Alaikum Safa,

You know what I think dear sister, since our chat the other day. I just want to reiterate that EVERY woman who doesn't like the circumstances she and her children are in (regarding their home life) needs to do everything she can to be able to improve her life (their lives) HERSELF. This begins with figuring out how to make a living and stand on her own without the man who isn't doing right by her. Only from that position of strength and independence can she guarantee change. If you keep trying to figure out how to make a man change, you are wasting your time -- time that could better be spent improving abd enjoying life.

I pray you are figuring it out Safa. If I could do it 20 years ago with no education, 2 children. no child support or father in the picture AT ALL, you can do it now. One thing you have going for you is that as you said, your husband will not let your kids go without. I hope you will not let yourself go without either.

Love you,
PM

1:26 PM

 
Blogger Simply Eva said...

Safa--do you think if your husband really understood how your girls are feeling--it might make a difference? Or would he just go all ballistic and see it (wrongly) as some form of disrespect from them? I am thinking maybe a father of 4 girls might worry that they could be in the same position some day--or worse--because their father wasnt a good role model. I pray things work out for each of you!

7:39 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I admire so much how you are handling this, Safa, mashallah. what an example you are making for your girls, drawing a bright line as far as how people need to treat you - and the girls too.

this is truly something they can take with them their whole life inshallah - knowing that allah has given them rights and dignity and that they can stand up for that, even when it's hard or painful.

Am making dua that Allah brings the best for you and your family.

sarah

11:31 PM

 

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