He's got a plan....OMG
My 13 yr old asked to have a private talk with me after her weekend with her father. If you all remember, she had refused to see him for the longest time. He'd come to take everyone out, but she wouldn't go to the door to see him. And there she is, asking to have a private talk....
Did I mention the new Ipod touch? Yes....a belated bday present from her father for her July 1st bday.
So the private talk....
She wants to go live with her father for one year. She thought about it the past weekend and its what she wants to do.
I'm stunned but recover quickly. I remember that my oldest didnt go last weekend, and obviously the ex and my 15 yr old tried to work some magic on her. OMG....doesn't ever stop?
The conversation was going good with my daughter....and I flat out told her NO. She cried a bit, and when I tried to reason with her, she kept repeating one phrase over and over again....
"you never let me do what I want"
When our private talk was over I went downstairs and my 13 yr old came downstairs shortly and took the phone to call her father. I sat watching some TV and about 15 mins later, look at the phone and see its still in use. 15 minutes? I get curious....too curious. But Allah wanted me to pick up that phone for a reason....so I put the phone on mute and then open the line....
I hear the ex telling my daughter that he'll take care of everything and he has a plan. He has the phone on speaker and I can hear my older daughter speaking as well. He's asking her about my schedule....do I ever go out and leave her home with the younger children....when will I be out of the house next.....does she know where the passports are....and then my older daughter cuts in and tells her to look in my closet....the green bag....get the passports and hold on to them. When Maryam tells him that I need to go to Mississauga the next day and I"m leaving her with Abdu and Nemo.....he perks up. Tells her that as soon as I leave to call him. Maryam starts crying on the phone and he tells her not to worry. She says she is scared and that this is drastic,....but both of them start coaching her...
When your mother kidnapped you from Egypt it was hard on me, but I got over it....so will she...
She kidnapped you once, so I'm just doing the same thing...
I think its better we do this when Cleo leaves.....it'll be easier when she's gone....
My 15 yr old is telling her that its my fault for not agreeing...so things will happen the hard way....
OMG.....just unreal. I manage to keep on the phone until they hang up and I'm shaking. Shaking. I call the cops and find out that they can't do anything at the moment, because no crime has been committed. But I also find out, that should the ex take the kids and I call the cops....once the kids are found they are returned to me whether they want to or not, because I have custody. I talk with the cops for a while.....so many questions.
When I got off the phone, I went and got the passports.....I'm putting them in a deposit box ASAP. I'm thinking, and I'm blank.....what to do? OMG....
He's planning to kidnap the kids? WTF? Is he nuts? Did he go ballistic after the court case?
So yesterday I took Maryam for a long drive.....and we talked and talked. Finally got around to her father and the phone call. She spilled. She's scared and she feels pressured. She told me that on the weekend her father and sister literally grilled her the entire time until she just didn't know what to do but agree with them... I could so easily smack him up the head right now...
So guess what happens with the EX yesterday....he had to drive to Montreal to pick up MM....and the car broke down halfway....oh the story sounds so familiar. Car died and he and my wayward 15 yr old spend 4 1/2 hours on the side of the highway waiting for CAA and a friend to pick them up. Montreal is 7 hours there and 7 more back. So yeah....they spent the entire day on the road. And the car? Yeah...it's DEAD.....either he'll buy another one or spend a small fortune fixing it. Oh how Allah protects me....alhamdulillah. Seems kidnapping plan is on hold until a suitable vehicle is found.....dumb asshole.
Today I called my 15 yr old and in a controlled yet angry way....I gave it to her. I put her in her place and when she tried to tell me her excuses and lame ideas....I told her that its just BULLSHIT. Oh yeah.....I laid it on the line for her. And of the strangest things she said to me.....she told me that she couldn't live with me anymore because I do bad things. Bad things? Bad things? I asked her to explain and it was just ridiculous. I told her to stop saying things her father coaches her to say and to take a look at herself and her behaviour and actions and tell me what is bad...?? OH man....
So then I tell her to give the phone to her father. I tell him that I need to meet up with him and have a discussion face to face. I don't tell him why....but I'm sure the 15 yr old will clue him in. He tells me he doesn't know whats going on with his car but that I'll have to drive to him to talk....2 hours drive.....crap....can't do it at the moment....was hoping to meet him halfway. Sheesh. I've already talked to a friend who would attend this meeting with me.....she's going to sit at another table and just read a book and not be seen. It'll prove to be a crazy meeting tho....because I'm going to be telling him I heard the conversation and that any visits he has with the kids from now on are going to be supervised by the gov't. In fact....he won't be seeing the kids for awhile.
I'll go tomorrow to get things started on changing the visitation on my paperwork.
Why on earth would he be planning something like this 3 years later?
I'm beside myself with anger..... and really need advice to what else I should be thinking about.....


22 Comments:
First of all, start arranging to change the visitation thing, make sure if he does visit, that someone from the government is there as well. Don't leave the kids alone unless is extremely urgent, and if that is the case, hire a babysitter, don't leave the kids alone. The babysitter would call the police if the ex would come. Hide the passports right now and only tell Sjon where they are.
Your ex is crazy, I think the court thing really pised him off...
2:09 AM
i think he waited until now b/c of Cleo. she was the big sister and the other kids knew she was watching out for them and they trusted her. now that she's gone, the 15yr old is trying to fill her shoes and hoping the others will look up to her and follow her lead.... all the way back to egypt. i know u don't want to put ur kids in the middle of this, but i think u need to have someone take a deposition of the 13yr old so that there is a record of that phone conversation. and see if u can borrow a digital recorder for ur next meeting/conversation with the ex.
4:53 AM
You also need to put a hold on their passports! He is crazy!
5:44 AM
Yes, the passports need to be marked.
6:14 AM
You've had some great suggestions so far. I would add for you to begin recording phone conversations. And I would also reccommend that you record the face to face conversation you plan on having with the EX.
6:29 AM
the passports are gone....not in the house anymore.....
6:30 AM
yes,,,record EVERYTHING...stop visitations immediately, dont leave the kids alone, and like someone said, try to OFFICIALLY depose the 13 yr old. like i said before, i think it is time to have supervised visits...if he's not a psycho, then i dont know who would be...hugs Safa! and great the passports are gone. btw, he cant have new Canadian ones made can he? what abt Egyptian ones???
12:14 PM
Is there any way you can have the authorities notified so that if he attempts to take the kids out of the country, using whatever passports he manages to get his hands on, they won't let them leave?
12:55 PM
Oh Safa,
He is a creep, he has always been self-centered, and selfish. This stupid Man justifies every stupid move in his life. Safa, he can't be trusted now, 5 years from now. Never.. Thank Allah, you had the sense to pick up the phone when you did. I'll make duaa for you tonight. Hang in there girl; you've overcame so much since you've been on your own.
Love ya,
Gabrielle
4:40 PM
He can't have new passports made because by law, both parents have to be seen....if the father hands it in, the mother must pick it up...... But you know what....I bet there are ways to figure that one out.
The best for of protection now is absolutely no unsupervised visits.....
5:04 PM
...was so worried after our talk, but i knew you'd get right on it, you always have.
sharon it may be 3 years but he is still boiling inside because you were able to get away from him. his attempt to leave you stuck in egy with the fam didnt work out anymore and he feels you made a fool of him.
3 years..5 years...he was waiting.
he is never to be trusted.
6:19 PM
Ya Allah! Does it never end with this man! I cant imagine how you felt listening to that plan being hatched but thank Allah you picked up the phone!! So happy you did!
Everyones suggestions are great! I definately would find out about making sure the kids passports are marked. Who holds the kids birth certificates?
Safa, anything you need, do let me know... ok?
6:25 AM
oh! also did I miss something, where is Cleo now?
6:26 AM
I agree with everyone else, stop the visitations immediately, he is not to be trusted. Its good that you hid the passports outside of your home. I know here in the states we have restraining orders, can you get on in Canada? For you and the kids. He is nuts, he has lost the last bit of his mind. I wonder what MM is saying through all of this? Where is Cleo? I must have missed that.
Good luck sis, you will do good, you always do. Stay strong!
6:41 AM
Safa, you need to also contact the Egyptian embassy if your children are Egyptian citizens. In no way does the embassy have to help you, but you need to alert them of the situation and asked to be notified if he applies for Egyptian passports for your children.
8:34 AM
I'd love to see that motherfucker get deported and stripped of his citizenship, or at least imprisoned. And it's good I am not within reaching distance because I swear I would slap Noora silly! I love her and I know she is your daughter, but she has been selfishly manipulating the situation since she arrived in Canada. She's too old for this shit. I am majorly PISSED.
I'm going to try to catch you online in the next day or so.
Stay strong, habibti.
Love you,
Lisa
1:47 PM
Well, I dont have access to Cleo'd blog, but last time it was public she didnt even wear her hijab...looking it from an Islamic angle, its pure fisq.
(btw, its fine, if u dont approve this comment, Safa...im just tired with these kind of talk when teenagers think they are all oh-so-wise...)
3:54 PM
(...just talkin g about you do "ad things"...kids know so little about life but yet they can be soooo confident...*sigh*)
3:56 PM
It's not Cleo who was trying to get her sister to find passports....its her younger sister, my 15 yr old, Noora who is now living with her father for the last 2 weeks...
8:10 AM
safa i think he has a plan b.when he doesnt get the passports he maybe will go to the egyptian embassy to get an egy passport.beause they are half egyptian they will get an egy passport,for egyptian law they count as egyptians,no matter if they are half canadian.
9:22 AM
Wow, what an asshat! I'm so sorry he's doing this. I would not let him take the kids anywhere. He can get Egyptian passports for them without your permission.
Hugs!
Anisah
11:30 AM
I know I'm commenting late but I'm just SO upset!
Oh... so when you "kidnapped" them to Canada it was hard on him? Yeah right so then why before you "kidnapped" them he would go to Egypt to visit them once in a blue moon, speak to them once in a blue moon, forget their important dates and forget to call them, etc, etc, etc. It doesn't seem it was too hard for him to be an absent parent then and now suddenly it's hard for him?
How selfish, you're the only parent they've known since he's only been a half-time father. If he truly cared about the children, he would know they're better of with you than with him and his unstable life.
As for your daughter, what does she object to? That you don't wear hijab, that you are married to a Christian man, or that you might not pray 5 times/day?
Well... if she believes that any of these things are wrong she should:
a. Research first. There are things in which there's difference of opinion. For example, in the case of a Muslim woman married to a christian man in a non-Muslim land, some traditional scholars have said it's allowed. She doesn't need to follow those scholars' opinion but as a Muslim she has to respect it.
b. Teach by example. If she truly believes that some of the things you're doing are wrong, the she's obliged as a Muslim to "teach by example" and be of upright character. So probably instead of pointing fingers outside she should first take a look at what's going on with her life. She's considered an adult and is responsible for her choices of dress, for praying, and for being honest and not helping spread fitnah in her family.
Finally Safa, I think that from now on all communications regarding the children should be between you and your ex, without putting the children in the middle. That's usually a recipe for disaster. So I wouldn't even let him speak to the children unsupervised. Also, as some people have suggested, I would try to get a legal written deposition from your daughter (Maryam) as proof and if possible from Norah as well. If she truly believes that what she and her father are doing is OK, then she sshould not have any problems stating it in a deposition.
4:42 PM
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